Mervyn King, Governor of the Bank of England has suggested more British banks may have to be nationalized in order to get them lending normally again. The alternative is many years of sub-trend growth.

Here’s the statement:

“The measures taken over the past six months were designed to stabilise the banking system and prevent failure. What’s become apparent is that nobody knows what level of capital they need to hold in order to be willing to make judgements about lending on the same criteria as you would regard as normal… In the long run, the only way to overcome this is for banks to get back to a position where they’re sufficiently well-capitalised that the degree of risk aversion that they exhibit towards their lending practices returns to a more normal level of risk aversion and not the extreme risk aversion which is being exhibited today.

“Higher capital would resolve that. How much capital, we simply don’t know. There was an interesting contribution from Alan Greenspan which suggested that several percentage points extra capital would be needed in American banks over and above the levels that regulators are pushing them to to get them to a more normal lending state.

“What’s very important to distinguish between and to my mind this is the big lesson of the last three, four five months, is that there is quite a big difference in practice between the levels of capital that banks need to be stabilised – in the sense that the creditors are reassured that the banks can continue as viable entities – and the levels required to persuade banks to exhibit normal levels of risk aversion. How big that gap is is absolutely impossible to say. I know of no scientific basis on which you can set that figure, but it looks as if it will be quite big.

“And what that means is that it will take time for the banks to get that extra capital. They are bound to be cautious about the rate at which they expand lending. It is a difficult problem to deal with. If the banks are going to continue as private sector entities they will naturally behave in a risk averse way for a while. That’s one of the lessons of history in terms of balance sheet problems.

“They could put in more public sector capital if they decided to do so but that has to be a judgement for government, and it does have ramifications for the Government’s shareholdings in banks because the amount you’d need to put in would undoubtedly be significant relative to the size of privately owned capital at present, and that does raise a whole series of awkward questions – but that is a matter for the Government.”

Not a nice prognosis and signs that the recent “bull” market and green shoots could all be in vain.

John Evans

We have been told for years that a virulent ‘flu pandemic is only a matter of time. Last year, the World Bank forecast it would depress the world economy by 5pc.

Well, it’s here. The outbreak of “swine” ‘flu in Mexico, where 150 people have died as I write, has been classified as a pandemic by the World Health Organization (WHO). There have been a number of cases in the US and a couple in the UK, although no deaths as yet.

With the entire world in the grip of a gathering recession/depression, this is what we don’t need. Britain is already facing a fall in GDP of around 4pc this year, and the effects of the ‘flu outbreak could push that up to depression levels (10pc fall in output from peak to trough) with massive implications for unemployment.

The City of London does have emergency plans for just such an occurrence and they are now being activated. The nation as a whole has enough antiviral drugs, such as Tamiflu, to cover half the population, but has rejected stockpiling face masks because they have to be replaced frequently and could be easily contaminated.

Already, markets are feeling the pinch, many headed south, while banks may need even more capital before this episode is over.

One of Britain’s leading economists Peter Spencer, Chief Economic Advisor to the Ernst & Young ITEM Club, has warned that “printing money” to buy assets such as corporate bonds and consumer loans, was needed now or the country faces a repeat of the Great Depression.

“My concern is that people don’t fully understand the dangers lurking out there. The Bank of England needs to move towards quantitative easing immediately – you don’t have to wait until you get to zero percent interest rates. If someone is choking to death you don’t think twice about giving them an emergency tracheotomy. There may be dangers, yes, but the alternative is that they die,” he said.

“We are now in danger of seeing the economy choke: and once you get into a situation where people are hoarding as much cash as you can throw at them and interest rates are stuck at zero, you’re in real, real trouble.”

He continued, ominously, “Our forecasts are relatively optimistic. The recession is already baked in. The question is whether we go from here into a decade of deflation – if they make more mistakes that is pretty much on the cards – or some pretty horrific numbers this year and some positives later on. They have days – not weeks – to play with.”

The difficult question of when the current financial/economic slump will end is fraught with complications. However, the answer is really quite a simple proposition.

Assets prices are falling so fast, no financier can back them until a loan against them is guaranteed against loss.

What that means is that asset prices have to find a floor. Only then will the real economy find willing partners in the financial economy and finance start to flow. When will that happen?

Guesstimates vary from the ridiculously optimistic — the British Treasury forecast — to the ridiculously pessimistic — “never”.

In between, the more realistic: “2012″.

From there we may see a slow growth back to financial and economic health, but it will need a sea-change in regulation and business administration. In particular we need to create bulkheads against the madness of globalized swings that can disrupt the strongest of economies. As David Brook wrote in the New York Times:

“We’re living in an age when a vast excess of capital sloshes around the world fueling cycles of bubble and bust. When the capital floods into a sector or economy, it washes away sober business practices, and habits of discipline and self-denial. Then the money managers panic and it sloshes out, punishing the just and unjust alike.”

As the BBC’s Business Editor, Robert Peston points out: “If you combine consumer, corporate and public sector debt [in the UK], the ratio of our borrowings to our annual economic output is a bit over 300 per cent, or more than £4,000 billion [six trillion dollars].”

Those numbers make even 2012 seem optimistic.

The only safe answer is, “Rebuilding starts when there are no more cliffs to fall off.”

A version of this piece appeared recently on The Money Log.